West View Baptist Church, Hartlepool

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Are you running alongside Jonah?

Jonny led today’s worship, assisted by Tim and Amanda. Tim brought  the Word. He continued the theme of the highlights of the Old Testament turned to the story of Jonah. Jonah gets called by God to go to Nineveh. Jonah ran away to Joppa, running as far as he could go in the opposite direction  to Tarshish.

Jonah’s on the boat asleep and a big storm comes. Jonah tells them to throw him overboard. The sailors don’t want to do it but he insists.

Tim wants to tell us of a slightly less well known part. Jonah is inside the fish imagine the smell the rotting fish.

Tim read from Chapter 2 of Jonah ending with God commanding the fish to vomit Jonah on to dry land.

You might be tempted to skip over this little prayer or song from Jonah in the whale. A bit like the lists of genealogy elsewhere in the Old Testament . Yet it’s pivotal, it showed Jonah’s point of view. How many of us in Jonah’s position would have gone to Nineveh an awful place. Jonah tried to run away from the task and ends up sinking down and down.

The sailor asks Jonah to pray to his God yet Jonah ignores this. Jonah’s prayer shows his experience, seaweed around his head sinking to the roots of the mountain. This is a real scientific understanding of where mountains start. He moves from calling God He to the more personal You. Jonah sees the painful hand of God in this. He knows it wasn’t the sailors but God who casts him into the sea. I am driven from your sight yet will I look upon your holy temple. He turns to God, in the same way the people in Exodus were called to turn and look upon the bronze fish .

In Chapter 1, the fish is male. Start of Chapter 2 it is female and then turns to male again. Echoes poetically for the words used for birth. Jonah’s rebirth here is alluded to here. Jonah reached rock bottom and is now reborn. He is thankful, grateful as he finds himself alive inside the fish. He’s still praying, God hasn’t said anything yet. Maybe Jonah is wondering how he’s going to get out of here.

Despite his own disobedience he’s still pointing the finger of blame at others, making vows but not being repentant.. he hadn’t been able to shake the idea that saving the Ninevites is not God’s greatest idea. Chapter 4 reinforces this. Amazing fact is God accepts this prayer, Jonah has looked towards God. God answered those who calls put in times of trouble. He accepts Jonah’s protests not as sin but as an ongoing conversation.

The picture is swallowing and vomiting is used elsewhere as judgement in the Old Testament. Jonah’s song whilst not full of repentance is accepted as a necessary first step in his journey. He can’t yet find compassion for outsiders. Maybe this is for us as well. Maybe God needs to work with us in our imperfect attitudes, it’s enough to turn towards God and believe. God will deal with all of the other stuff. Maybe we’ve been in the dark place Jonah’s been in.

Jesus descended into death clearly leaving no place where he can’t find us. God doesn’t expect everyone to suddenly understand, to not have doubts, to not have questions. Jonah is utterly wrong and prejudiced. Yet God’s going to use him. And when he finally goes to Nineveh and preaches people respond.

We’ll never understand everything. This is the life of faith. We carry the queries, the doubts and the questions and yet God will never leave us. We can have the conversation with God, Jonah continues to protest but as God continues to work with him Jonah cannot run. Jonah gives us a glimpse of real faith , a faith that struggles. Jonah gives thanks when he knows he did not deserve to be saved. Like Jonah we have lots of unresolved issues, yet God continues to be with us in dark difficult places.

Nothing separates us from God’s love. Our faith does not depend on us having all the answers. God has them.

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A Child of Christ: The view of the World that we want.

It’s been an amazing weekend that has seen God move in many amazing ways. Over the last couple of weeks I’ve been blessed in taking out new people on Town Pastors. Last week I took out someone who had travelled the drug and alcohol addiction road and was coming out of the other side with a real determination to live life for God in a very different way to what had gone before. He shared his story with some of our regular homeless and vulnerable people and then through the week he also had chance to share his story with one of our young vulnerable friends on the street.

She met the team whilst we were out this weekend and shared that he had touched and moved her with his story of his journey. She realised that, contrary to what she thought, she wasn’t a lost cause. He’d been on harder drugs, taken more and done worse and had sank even further into the darkness and despair than she was currently and yet God had made the difference in his life. He’d fought for his sobriety and been reborn to a new life as a Child of Christ. He now wanted to join with those Christian brothers and sisters who were determined to make this world a safer better place for those living, working studying and partying in the town. Pray for her that she finds the courage to put the first steps on the road to recovery and a better life. Amazingly whilst Street Angels were helping her,  our friends in the Hartlepool CCTV centre also contacted the team to say they were watching over her and offering sources of help and advice.

The theme of children and families continues to be played out at West View Baptist Church. We’ve been blessed to be joined recently by two new couples, Charlotte and Joe and Terry and Carolyn. They have thrown themselves into the life of the church and already appear as if they’ve always been part and parcel of the  West View family.  Expect to see more of these names in future weeks as God has led, and is leading them on an amazing adventure as they relocate to this area. We prayed for workers and God sent us people who were trained in working in the kitchen, worked with children and were good at practical stuff like maintenance and repairs.  I wanted a bible verse about workers and went on my online bible to be greeted with the Verse of the Day from Joshua 24:15 that ends “But as for me and my household, we will serve the Lord”. Amazing to have the verse served to me straight away.

Amazing is a word I seem to have written a lot this week. Today in church we were over run with children. They came in as a constant stream, the first came with their church families, then 3 young lads from the estate, then a family from Filling Station, then the family from across the road carrying babes in arms. All arriving at different times, but with the net result that when our Young Church gathered for their separate part of our morning worship they had 23 children. Some of these children don’t even cope well in school yet they chose to come to us. One of the highlights from the day was overhearing the Dad from the Filling Station family say to his young boys, “Go into the kids room, Daddy’s going to stay here because I’ve come to worship”.

Ian,  Amanda and Jonny led worship today. The song choices were spot on and never has the words to “No Longer Slaves” been more appropriate. “I’ve been born again into a family, Your blood flows through my veins. I’m no longer a Slave to Fear, I am a Child of God”.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8TkUMJtK5k

Mark brought the word today. It was Peacekeeping Sunday today and Mark was supposed to preach on the theme of arguments. However Mark was led instead to talk about the different viewpoints in life, looking at heavenly views as opposed to earthly views.

He read from Mark 9 30:37. This was a passage that spoke of the disciples arguing yet finished “Whoever welcomes one of these little children in my name welcomes me; and whoever welcomes me does not welcome me but the one who sent me.” Did I mention we welcome 23 children into church this morning?

He asked us to consider what a heavenly view might look like.  He  suggested that this should look like we have both good morals and good morale, liking everyone as God’s children and accepting people for who they are and not who we think they should be.

He also urged us all to be positive in our outlook. He posed the question “If we’re not positive as a Child of God, what does this look like to others? He reminded us about the way children behave before they learn about earthly fears. Think about how children just walk up to people and treat them as friends without fear. Think about the way we deal with earthly issues , family abuse, depression, unhappiness, negativity, how and did this change occur in our own lives. Mark shared how his life changed and his outlook changed. He admitted to not being open about his feelings and struggling with depression. Then he says he met his wife Sarah and his future in-laws . Through them he found God and learned to forgive.

He reminded us that it is the earthly values that make us negative and judging of others. He asked “How do we change this?” The best way is to turn to God, pray, share your problems with others, don’t be afraid to ask for help and guidance from friends in church.

Mark shared how he thought that a good principle in life was to think before you act or speak. He recalled the fashion at one point for people in church to wear wrist bands with “What would Jesus do” It’s a good thought habit to get into.It’s true, be polite, say hello to the people you meet in your daily journey, the fellow cyclist, the dog walkers. It leads to a conversation. 2 minute talk to a stranger can change their day. Our new arrival Terry had shared how he met his wife when he was pushing a street sweeper’s barrow and he used to stop and chat. Children do this all the time. Somehow we as adults we lose this ability, yet it can change our lives. Help us overcome negative thoughts, concentrate on the heavenly views. Did I mention West View Baptist Church is seeing amazing things? Help us to show this earth our heavenly views. Join us on the journey.

 

 

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Words matter, use them well for positive things

Ian and Amanda led the service today and chose some powerful songs to demonstrate the power of words, whether it be eagles soaring, unending praise or standing firm on a Rock.

It was a great service made all the more relevant for me having finished the previous night’s Street Angels patrol simply talking to people and being given the right words to deal with a variety of people. The correct reassurance for worried Mancunian, the sharing of faith with the person who hadn’t been to church since they were little, the sharing of comfort and a hug for a homeless person, the words of shared background and understanding with the once atheist, now Buddhist but Christian living seeker of knowledge. We had a new volunteer with us and he asked what he should say if people asked him about his faith and his life journey. My answer was simply to say that it was up to him, we didn’t have a script,  we simply ask people to answer from their own heart and experience why they choose to be a street angel.  That honesty and openness is what people respond so positively to. Not sure he believed this at the beginning of the night but he was convinced by the end.

Esther brought the Word today. She spoke about the power of words. She hoped we’d all been offered words of welcome when we arrived and hoped we were glad to be here. We had opened our service with the broadcast words of Shadrach Meshach Lockridge who was the preacher at Calvary Baptist Church from 1953 to 1993.His words on “That’s my King” come at the end of an hour long sermon he delivered and are amazing to listen to. The rythmn and the musicality of his words reach out across the 4 decades since he preached them. Esther pointed out that God has given her a lot of words (her husband David agreed!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA86JLichyY

Mark 8:27 offers some important words here. They are central to our understanding of Jesus, Central pivotal . Says it all. They mark a place 2 and a half years into the ministry of Jesus.

The disciples are travelling, they’re going up north Just like some couples in this room. Mark is the shortest most chronological Gospel starting at the baptism of Jesus. Jesus is baptised in the Jordan lowest point on the planet. They’re on their way to Caesarea Philippi . We’ve already heard about lots of miracles and parables from Jesus. Mark was the PA or personal assistant to Barnabas Paul and Peter. He was the translator. People wanted Peter’s sermons recorded a bit like this blog. Words are so important.

Thankfully gospel people blogged them and write them down. These events happened 6 months before Jesus went to the cross. The disciples were travelling in a pagan area. The source of the water they find is snow on the mountain flowing through a crack in the water. This has pagan symbolism and there are statues of Caesar and Pan in the rock face where the river emerges. This is where Jesus asks “Who do people say I am? But it’s not out of vanity or ego. It’s not a Donald Trumop incident. Trump needs to know how people see him checking tweets etc.

Not he case for Jesus. His authority comes from God. Children of God is where and what our identity should be. It’s approval from God we’re after. The disciples reply back with the headlines of the day, Herod says the same words in chapter 6. Amongst the people was already the sense that that he was a prophet. Between John the Baptist and the previous prophet there had been a break, a period of silence of 400 years! A long time.

Jesus wanted to know what people were saying simply to lead to the big question “Who do you say I am Peter?” This is the first time Peter speaks. “You are the Christ the messiah”. Was Jesus surprised Peter got it right. Matthew 16:15 to 20 shows this knowledge was from God. Peter didn’t tell Mark this bit. Peter it seems did not want to have the focus about him.  Tough for us not to put the me as the focus. Esther noted that a lot of us preach with ourselves as the focus. It’s difficult not to.  Jesus was affirming Peter here and starting to teach the disciples some tough bad news messages.

Both Christ and messiah mean the annointed one. This is where the teaching of the disciples starts. Only when we answer this question can Jesus move us on. The power of God working in us is shown and the cost of this is revealed. Whatever God call us to do has a cost. Jesus speaks plainly about being the son of man. Daniel 50o years before shares his vision in Daniel 7 13:14. Dwell on this for a minute. What a message! This is our Jesus foretold.

Jesus uses hard words, involving suffering rejection death. Peter rebukes Jesus , yet Jesus takes him aside. He doesn’t embarrass him, he clarifies his message in private. Esther shared that she had always felt for Peter when Jesus refers to Satan. Jesus was seeing Satan at work trying to tempt Jesus through Peter. Jesus needed to go to the cross to fulfil his mission.

Esther and David then shared a dialogue from the Roots material we use for our children and youth teaching.  Again the words were powerful  as Jesus (voiced by David) shared  his views on how blessed are meek those who mourn and so on. Words from the commentator (Esther ) such I serve someone who was born in a stable and died on a cross reinforce the power of words. We also used this dialogue in our visit to our friends at the Sheraton Court care home later in the day.

We can’t just choose the good bits when we become a disciple of Jesus. It’s hard . If we are to save our lives we should be prepared to lose our lives in Jesus. In this world many of the words folks us are to bring people down . Words really, really matter . Use words that matter well. Make a positive effort to use words well. Be positive with our spouses, our children, our parents, our colleagues, take positivity out there Esther concluded with the words of Isiaih 50 4:7.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA86JLichy

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Wet and dry fleeces, a mighty warrior, Sheraton Court and gathering to learn

I’m a bit late with the blog this week. We’ve packed a great deal into the week.

The Hyde family, Tim, Eleanor and Jonny led worship on Sunday. Tim brought us the Word and looked at Judges 6 and 7. He reflected on the fact that he was blessed to have been tutored by someone who was part of the committee who translated the NIV Bible.

Judges sits in the history of Israel. People had settled in the land, God continually raised up leaders for the people. In chapter 6 Gideon is visited by the angel of the Lord. He’s threshing wheat in secret,

The angel  confuses Gideon by saying “The lord is with you mighty warrior.”

Tim asked us to think about how would you thresh wheat in a wine press? How do you get the height and the wind to separate the wheat from the chaff?

Go and save Israel is the message and chapter 7 is all about Gideon taking back Israel from the Midianites .

The story is full of irony. Gideon is introduced as the mighty man of valour, Gideon was full of fear and doubt. In the time of Judges they’re in the cycle of people forgetting God and being punished. Peoplke lived in constant fear hiding in caves in the mountains. Gideon is trying to thresh wheat. Anyone tried it? The separation of the chaff is vital yet Gideon is doing this inside without the benefit of the wind. Gideon surveys the destruction wreaked by the Midianites.

Doubt and fear makes him doubt. But his doubts are out of ignorance. Gideon is a caricature of the whole of Israel. He is a clear marker of someone who has sunk to a low point full of fear and doubt.

A man who is crippled with fear and doubt yet is called to lead the people into battle. Gideon when being addressed as a mighty man of valour probably looked over his shoulder looking for someone else!

Gideon questions the wisdom of being face to face with god. In the midst of fear and doubt God says I am with you. It’s encouraging that God calls people like you and me. Gideon asks for more proof. He’s heard it before. He goes to get lunch for God and God spontaneously combusts the lunch. Gideon perceived the truth.

Gideon is clothed by the spirit of the Lord. It speaks of protection, comfort security and empowerment for the task ahead. Think of what Jesus said . Gideon overcomes his fears and sounds the call to battle. Gideon is the contender for the Lord not for Baal. He still doesn’t get it. If you were wrapped in God.s presence you’d marh straight into battle. Gideon wants another test, he puts the fleece on the ground . But he squeezes out the water and still doesn’t believe. He asks for more proof.

Gideon has become desensitised to God, Are we like him?. No one else in the Bible gets more encounters with God but still doesn’t get it. God is patient and that is good news for us all. Ironic that God chose a smaller weaker battle force. God wanted them to be left in no doubt as to who wins the battle. God gets directly involved for the first time in picking the team. Those afraid didn’t need asking twice before leaving the battle, but there were still too many. How people drank then decided the team. Only 300!are left. No cup no glass, how would you drink?

God was picking the weaker army. God is underlining he is the victor here. He’s picking an army using as criteria skills and abilities that have no use in battle.  Tim posed this as a question for us all. For the church to teach another generation do we need more or less people, bigger or smaller buildings, or no buildings at all. No coincidence that this follows Deborah . She attributes without prompting the thanks to God.

Gideon’s success goes to his head, he thinks about taking taxes from the people, Gideon is the only one who doesn’t get the title of judge. Ironic that no other judge dies as much harm to the spiritual health of Israel.

We are just like Gideon. He’s not an example to be followed, he’s like you and me. The story is about a patient god who meets us in our fears and doubts to accomplish his purposes and it doesn’t matter how many of us there are. Is the fact that churches are closing good or bad? God’s church will survive even if ours or yours do not. God is seeking out people who are following him. There are times when his ways don’t fit with ours and it all feels risky. Gideon teaches us to trust in God. But if you want to know about how to celebrate victory look to the song of Deborah rather than the actions of Gideon.

Later on Sunday we caught the last few minutes of the England football match as we joined our friends at Sheraton Court for a short service. It was nice to see the welcome we got and the efforts the staff had made for the residents to celebrate England’s victory.  Not quite the song of Deborah but we did join the residents in a small chorus of “We’ll meet Again” as we were leaving.

On Tuesday we hosted a new series of workshops for those interested in leading worship or preaching. We had friends from Oxford Road and the Headland join us. Pray for those taking part in this new venture as they explore new ideas.

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Veggie Tales and Tumblin’ Walls: Humbly serving God

Ian led our Father’s day worship today assisted by Amanda and Tim brought us the word.

Tim continued with his excursion through the Old Testament highlights He shared that is not actually something you get to preach on very often. Tim was very enthusiastic about the way that Veggie Tales tell todays reading very well. Those involved in children’s work knew what he was on about but there were puzzled looks from some in the congregation. I’ve included a link at the end so you can experience the Veggie Tales story.

Tim read from Joshua Chapter 5:13 onwards about the fall of Jericho. He shared his own feelings on this and similar passages from the Old Testamement. He asked us if we saw the difficulty and the problems. If it was easy as the children’s tales make out. He sort of regrets doing this highlights tour. Killing everyone is a subject that causes real problems. Richard Dawkins uses this story as evidence God doesn’t exist.
Tim stressed the importance of being careful what we read into this and how we deal with this. He had read some commentaries on this. Need to recognise this comes from an ancient world where war and destruction was an everyday occurrence.

God’s people are different and are separated. This is part of a much longer story of God providing a promised land. Jericho was a fortress standing in the way of that Promised Land and that needed to be dealt with.

Deuteronomy Chapter 20 v16 to 18 sets out the fact that things need to be destroyed. A necessary step in building purity. Tim says it is not necessarily how it happened, and if you read further on not everyone was destroyed. God’s bigger plan is to establish His people . Despite uncomfortable things in the passage there are things that will help us. Recommitting themselves to God was a start. But this was going to be hard work and Joshua needs to look to the heaven. First thing we notice is the appearance of a helper. God asserts that the battle is his and the commander of the Lord’s army appears. It’s like forming a football team and you’re struggling for players and Renaldo or whoever you like turns up. Ultimate the responsibility does not lie with Joshua. The God of the bible has a knack of tailoring his appearance to suit the needs of his people . No more evident than with Jesus.

As Joshua begins to realise who the commander is, Joshua understands God isn’t on anyone’s side. Sometimes it is more important to know who God is rather than what his plans are. Into desperate, hopeless, circumstances comes the appearance of help. God shows up on a way we often don’t expect.

The methods of God’s battle plan are a little strange, armed men , the sevens, the horns, the Ark! The Ark of the Covenant is referenced ten times and holds centre stage, it is the Ark that shows God’s presence with his people, this is what will make the difference!

You can imagine doing all the things asked, looking very silly, imagine the tensions waiting for the signal to break the silence. The emphasis here is on just how passive God’s people are and how important God’s presence is here. Leaves no doubt, God wins this battle not Joshua. God’’s tactics win out. God invites us to be involved in building God’s Kingdom. We do have a tendency to obscure his glory. Paul writes that the overwhelming power comes from God not us. Think about what we’ve seen in the Trump meeting with North Korea this week . It is incredible. Some of these things he does are ridiculous but what if they are foolish things acting in God’s power ? Will this lead to world peace?

Last thing is the demands placed on God’s people in verses 10 and 16. The writer shared some instructions first with the people. The writer emphasised the importance of the rules that need to, and must be followed. Obedience to God’s word is more important than the victory. It’s not what you do that matters, it’s how you do it! The temptation here was to grab loot, but God says no.

No doubt modern film makers would focus on the battle. But that’s not the focus here, In half a verse (20) the writes sums up what happens. Our response needs to be that of humble obedient servants through whom God can work, 1 Peter chapter 1 v16 “Be holy because I am holy”. Our battles shouldn’t be about winning minor victories but about winning for God.

There’s a story of salvation here for Rahab. She was not just someone saving spies. He is God in heaven above recognising she was a women of faith who believed in God. Rahab is found in Christ’s line according to Matthew 1:5. God chose a pagan prostitute to save. Let us have the simple faith that Rahab found and may our pursuit of God’s goals be as humble. Come have your way amongst us today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDpM_j1MZG8